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Rapture Frauds Sin by Picking the Wrong Date, but there is a greater Sin
Missing the mark is Sin. So called rapture prophets miss the mark continually by picking the wrong date. However, the greater sin is making the rapture a product of human achievement.
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Why Rapture Threats are Meaningless to me
Along with eternal torment and eternal separation from God
The only way someone can threaten you with eternal separation is if they have no faith in Christ’s completed work of salvation.
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Video: What does ‘Rapture Ready’ mean?
People are so concerned with being ‘rapture ready’ that they miss the true message that will get them ‘raptured’ in the first place.
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Romans: The Most Important Teaching
Reading the bible can be a taunting task for the new believer. I recommend to anyone that doesn’t know where to begin to start with the book of Romans. Do you want to know why Paul’s letter to the Romans is arguably the most important book in scripture?
The apostle Paul received revelation from the glorified Christ Jesus. This information from Jesus was penned by Paul as God’s chosen vessel to reveal the deepest truth and the full meaning and scope of the cross.
Romans is so important because Paul speaks of a transition from the old way to the new way. Consequently, if we do not understand Paul’s writing we may still adhere to parts if not all of the old way. This is the major problem of religion today. They try to follow the old way and the new way. However, the new way cannot be followed unless the old way is completely abandoned. This is what I am going to discuss in this article.
First, we must realize that while Jesus was on earth He did not reveal everything the cross accomplished until, in His glorified form, He gave a series of revelations to the apostle Paul.
8 For I am saying that Christ has become the Servant of the Circumcision, for the sake of the truth of God, to confirm the patriarchal promises. 9 Yet the nationsare to glorify God for His mercy, according as it is written, “Therefore I shall be acclaiming Thee among the nations,” “And to Thy name shall I be playing music.” -Romans 15: 8-9
Jesus came to confirm the promises of Israel as her Messiah. Paul, however, is now going to explain the depths of God’s mercy given to the nations.
In the first three chapters in the book of Romans, Paul explains the law of sin and death, something that Israel knew very well. He explains that those with good acts seek glory, honor, and incorruption while those that are stubborn do not. God will be paying each one in accord with his acts (Romans 2: 7-10).
Now please follow me on this because at the point, religious people stop paying attention to detail. Paul sets up the law of sin and death which is in a nutshell: Do good and God will reward you…do bad and God will punish you. Paul just explained what a person must do in order to have life under the law of sin and death.
Now watch what happens next! After explaining what a person must do in order to seek honor, incorruption, and life eonian…Paul says that all creation has failed at doing this. So, Paul sets up and explains the law of sin and death explaining how the stubborn fail in sin and are deserving of death. Then, he says that all have sinned and not one is justified through this law of sin and death. Why? because all have sinned.
10 according as it is written, that “Not one is just” — not even one. 11 Not one is understanding. Not one is seeking out God. -Romans 3: 10-11
According to this law of sin and death, Paul explains that the entire world may become subject to the just verdict of God. Paul has explained that sinners are deserving of death (Romans 1: 28-32), then explains that all are sinners (Romans 3: 10-11). So again, according to the law of sin and death, we have all failed and have all fallen short of God.
19 Now we are aware that, whatever the law is saying, it is speaking to those under the law, that every mouth may be barred, and the entire world may become subject to the just verdict of God, 20 because, by works of law, no flesh at all shall be justified in His sight, for through law is the recognition of sin. -Romans 3: 19-20
God says that doers of the law shall be justified (Romans 2:13). Then, Romans 3:20 says that by works of law, no flesh at all shall be justified in God’s sight. So, we must do the law to be justified but we cannot, so nobody is justified.
This means that no one, not one person, according to scripture can be justified by overcoming sin in order to gain or maintain salvation in any way. All have failed and that’s it.
Okay, so Paul has presented the law of sin and death to explain that we all fail. He does this in order to explain the only way that we are justified. This is apart from the law of sin and death. This means that our sin or lack of it plays no part in our salvation. Here is what does:
21 Yet now, apart from law, a righteousness of God is manifest (being attested by the law and the prophets), 22 yet a righteousness of God through Jesus Christ’s faith, for all, and on all who are believing, for there is no distinction, 23 for all sinned and are wanting of the glory of God. -Romans 3: 21-23
So law, the law of sin and death is done. The attempt to stop sinning in order to be justified or maintain justification is no more. We now get justification through Christ’s faith. Paul goes on to explain in the rest of Romans that we are justified by Christ’s death for sin, His entombment, and His resurrection. This is apart from any sin or not sinning on our part and solely based on Christ.
God gives faith to some now (Romans 12:3) to realize Christ’s completed work and the rest will come eventually through judgement. However, all are saved by Christ, apart from their own acts, apart from sinning or not sinning, apart from believing or not believing, completely apart from the law of sin and death.
Any and all discussion about the human doing something to earn salvation and by not doing that thing, not having salvation is reverting back to the law of sin and death in which no one finds justification.
“If you choose Jesus, God will save you, if you don’t you are going to hell.”
“If you continue to sin then you may lose your salvation”
“You must make a free-will choice to save yourself and if you don’t, fire for you…ha ha ha.”
All of the comments above and every one like them are reverting back to the law of sin and death. You do this and God will reward you, but if not, you are separated forever. This law has been fulfilled by Christ, not by you.
So what most Christians don’t understand is this: Any mention or teaching of a person needing to stop sinning in order to gain or maintain salvation in any way is reverting back to the law of sin and death.
So, why do Christians continually preach that we must overcome sin in order to be saved or in order to maintain our salvation? No matter what sin, big or little, intentional or not, once occurring or occurring often, is a belief that the law of sin and death is still in operation. This is complete ignorance of what Jesus fulfilled and completed for us through His work.
I have actually had Christians quote verses in the first three chapters of Romans trying to prove that we are saved by ‘our acts’ and ‘sinning or not sinning.’ They don’t realize that Paul only explains this in order to show us that no one is saved this way. Paul does this in order to set-up the only way we are now saved apart from sin and law.
Therefore, Christians that quote these verses or any scripture dealing with the law of sin and death are actually quoting from the very source that Paul explains is not the way we get God’s righteousness. Some Christians will pay lip service to this, but will argue that Jesus made it possible for us to stop sinning. In essence, Jesus abolishes the law of sin and death only to make it possible for us to follow the law of sin and death. Makes no sense.
Jesus of course, while He was on earth in His terrestrial form, explained what must be done and not be done in order to endure to the end of the age. However, this is for believers going through the end times and is not the message that Christ gave to the apostle Paul.
In the verses and chapters following Romans 3:21, Paul explains exactly what being freed from the law of sin and death means. Paul says that man is justified by faith apart from works of the law (Romans 3:28).
Remember in Romans 1:18 when Paul was talking about the law of sin and death, he mentioned that God’s indignation is on all irreverence and injustice of men. Now, in Romans 4:5, Paul says that God is justifying the irreverent. In fact, Paul says that Christ died for the irreverent while they are still sinners and while they were still enemies.
Do you see how the law of sin and death is no longer in effect? Previously, Paul talks about how sinners will get death because of their acts. Now, Paul is saying that these very same people deserving of death are now saved while they are still doing the same wicked acts that led to death. What changed? Well, it wasn’t the the sinner’s acts because Paul says they are still irreverent, still sinners, still enemies.
5 Yet to him who is not working, yet is believing on Him Who is justifying the irreverent, his faith is reckoned for righteousness. -Romans 4:5
6 For Christ, while we are still infirm, still in accord with the era, for the sake of the irreverent, died. 7 For hardly for the sake of a just man will anyone be dying: for, for the sake of a good man, perhaps someone may even be daring to die, 8 yet God is commending this love of His to us, seeing that, while we are still sinners, Christ died for our sakes. 9 Much rather, then, being now justified in His blood, we shall be saved from indignation, through Him.
10 For if, being enemies, we were conciliated to God through the death of His Son, much rather, being conciliated, we shall be saved in His life. 11 Yet not only so, but we are glorying also in God, through our Lord, Jesus Christ, through Whom we now obtained the conciliation. -Romans 5: 6-11What has changed is that these sinners are justified by the blood of Christ. Those who are NOT WORKING to overcome their own sin but those that are believing on Him (Christ) Who is justifying the irreverent, his faith is reckoned for righteousness.
Notice now and in verses that I will go over shortly, Paul does not teach that the sinners, the irreverent, and the enemies of God need to stop being sinners, stop being irreverent, or stop being enemies of God in order to have Christ’s justification. This justification is for all, but only currently on those that are given faith by God.
Paul goes into great detail as to how we are saved and how we get God’s righteousness. However, Christians continue to inject the law of sin and death into Paul’s message and therefore diabolically destroying truth.
For instance, Romans 5: 18:21 says that ‘all mankind’ is condemned by Adam’s offense. Before Paul finishes this sentence, he says that ‘all mankind’ is justified by Christ’s just award. We did nothing to earn death, we inherited it from Adam. In the exact same way we get death, by no choice or act on our part, we get justification from Christ. We inherit it. So, the same all that get death from Adam (everyone) are the same all that get justification from Christ.
However, this is where religious people inject the law of sin and death back into Paul’s message. They say ‘all’ get death from Adam, but only those that stop sinning and choose Christ get justification. This is the law of sin and death. You must do something in order to be saved. You must do good, believe, be reverent, stop being an enemy. Nevermind Paul’s message and everything he has talked about up until this point. The Christian undermines Paul’s message of Christ’s work justifying the irreverent, the sinner, the enemy while they are in that state.
As if that’s not enough, Paul then says that where sin increases, grace superexceeds. How could anyone mistake Paul’s message when he says this. This has nothing to do with the law of sin and death. Therefore, the more you sin the more this grace by which you get justification applies to you. This is the complete opposite of the law of sin and death that Christians try to inject into this message.
18 Consequently, then, as it was through one offense for all mankind for condemnation, thus also it is through one just award for all mankind for life’s justifying. 19 For even as, through the disobedience of the one man, the many were constituted sinners, thus also, through the obedience of the One, the many shall be constituted just. 20 Yet law came in by the way, that the offense should be increasing. Yet where sin increases, grace superexceeds, 21 that, even as Sin reigns in death, thus Grace also should be reigning through righteousness, for life eonian, through Jesus Christ, our Lord. -Romans 5: 18-21
Now let’s move on to Romans 6: 4-7 in which Paul explains the full measure of what Christ’s work on the cross brings to us. Notice once again, that what Paul explains we are in Christ has nothing to do with our acts, nothing to do with the law of sin and death, nothing to do with ‘not sinning.’
4 We, then, were entombed together with Him through baptism into death, that, even as Christ was roused from among the dead through the glory of the Father, thus we also should be walking in newness of life. 5 For if we have become planted together in the likeness of His death, nevertheless we shall be of the resurrection also, 6 knowing this, that our old humanity was crucified together with Him, that the body of Sin may be nullified, for us by no means to be still slaving for Sin, 7 for one who dies has been justified from Sin. -Romans 6:4-7
You see, we have been planted together with Christ in His death and resurrection. We have not been planted separately. Christ’s death and resurrection is our death and resurrection. This will be realized by all creation in the fullness of time because it is not dependent upon man’s decision or action. It is not dependent on the law of sin and death, but Christ alone.
Christ died for Sin once for all time (Romans 6:10).
So did we! We are planted together, so we are dead to Sin (Romans 6:11).
This is why Paul says to not let Sin be lording it over you. He says that we are not under law but under grace.
14 For Sin shall not be lording it over you, for you are not under law, but under grace. -Romans 6:14
So many people mistake these verses to mean that Paul is instructing believers to ‘not sin’ and that because of Christ we will not sin any longer. This is completely untrue. Paul is saying that Sin should not have any power over you in a very different sense. He is teaching believers how to handle sin that is in their lives. Paul is not teaching them about ‘not sinning.’
Essentially, Paul is telling us not to worry about our sin anymore because in Christ we are saved regardless of sin. Sin can never keep us from God no matter how it manifests in our lives. The funny thing is that ignoring sin in this way only causes us to sin less because we are not paying attention to it. Instead, we are paying attention to Christ and His accomplishment.
You see, Christianity believes that we need to continually fight and overcome our own sin. However, Paul already explained that trying to fight sin in the flesh only leads to more sin.
7 . . . For besides, I had not been aware of coveting except the law said, “You shall not be coveting.” 8 Now Sin, getting an incentive through the precept, produces in me all manner of coveting. For apart from law Sin is dead. -Romans 7: 7-8
We are to walk in spirit, never fighting sin again. Walking in spirit means realizing what we have been graciously given by God in Christ Jesus. Our old humanity of sin and death was crucified with Christ. There is no need to pull up this old humanity of sin and death, then overcome it when Christ already killed it. This is how we could be ‘still sinning’ and walking in spirit at the same time, because we know that sin is defeated by Christ and not by us. In the end, this leads to less sin on our part, not more.
This is what Paul is talking about in Romans 6: 12-14:
12 Let not Sin, then, be reigning in your mortal body, for you to be obeying its lusts.
13 Nor yet be presenting your members, as implements of injustice, to Sin, but present yourselves to God as if alive from among the dead, and your members as implements of righteousness to God. 14 For Sin shall not be lording it over you, for you are not under law, but under grace. -Romans 6: 12-14How could Paul be talking about ‘not sinning’ in light of what is said in Romans 6:15?
15 What then? Should we be sinning, seeing that we are not under law, but under grace? May it not be coming to that! -Romans 6:15
If Paul is telling us ‘not to sin’ then why would his message lead to asking, should we be sinning? The only reason Paul would ask this question is because his message will cause people to think its okay to sin. That’s what Christians say all the time to this message of grace. They say, “Oh, you mean to tell me I can sin all I want and still be saved.”
Don’t you see that Paul anticipates that response? If Paul was telling people not to sin, then he would not have to worry about addressing people that thought this was an incentive to sin. The only way Paul would need to say this is because He is teaching believers that sin, no matter how much sin you have, cannot effect your standing in Christ Jesus.
Paul is saying that we are saved and justified by Christ no matter how much we have sinned, are sinning, or continue to sin. Now, having this understanding of grace, we will sin less because our focus is Christ’s work and not ‘our overcoming’ sin. Ignoring sin and starving it by knowing it cannot effect your standing in Christ, will make it less in your life. Fighting Sin, in the flesh like Christians do, will cause it to lord over you. Any mention of a need to overcome sin in order to be saved or to maintain salvation is fighting sin in the flesh, because it does not rely on Christ’s completed work.
Again, this is substantiated in Romans 7: 15-20 as Paul talks about sin in his life. Paul is not talking about how to overcome sin but is talking about what to do with the sin that is in your life. What is the answer? Overcoming your sin by stopping the sin? NO. His answer to the sin in your life and his…is GRACE! Remember that grace is present where sin exists. Paul says where sin increases, grace superexceeds (Romans 5:20).
15 For what I am effecting I know not, for not what I will, this I am putting into practice, but what I am hating, this I am doing. 16 Now if what I am not willing, this I am doing, I am conceding that the law is ideal. 17 Yet now it is no longer I who am effecting it, but Sin making its home in me. -Romans 7: 15-17
24 A wretched man am I! What will rescue me out of this body of death? Grace!
25 I thank God, through Jesus Christ, our Lord. Consequently, then, I myself, with the mind, indeed, am slaving for God’s law, yet with the flesh for Sin’s law. -Romans 7: 24-25According to Romans 6: 16-18, we are either slaves of ‘sin for death’ or ‘obedience for righteousness.’ Again, Paul is not saying to stop sinning but to stop being in the ‘law of sin and death’ that only leads to death, especially when one tries to fight sin. We obey from the heart the teaching of being freed from sin (by Christ) and enslaved to righteousness. How do we get this righteousness?
This is where religion stumbles. We get this righteousness by grace, not by overcoming Sin already taken care of by Christ. Grace reigns in righteousness, not us.
21 that, even as Sin reigns in death, thus Grace also should be reigning through righteousness, for life eonian, through Jesus Christ, our Lord. -Romans 5:21
Paul says it twice in the span of fifteen verses. Once in 6:15 and once in 6:1. Therefore, how can Paul be talking about ‘not sinning’ if he anticipates the argument and has to again warn against abusing this doctrine to increase sin. He would only say that if his teaching did exactly that…made our justification and grace regardless of any and all sin.
1 What, then, shall we declare? That we may be persisting in sin that grace should be increasing? -Romans 6:1
Paul says this because if we do persist in sin grace does increase. He actually says, “where sin increases, grace superexceeds (Romans 5:20).” This is completely ousting the law of sin and death. Even though our sin cannot effect what we are in Christ, we should not use this as a license to sin. But when sin appears, we still have all that we have because it is in Christ that we have them.
The problem with Christianity is that they think people that believe this sin all day long. However, this grace actually causes believers to sin less. Only a person hell bent and concerned with only sin would use this message to sin more. Therefore, since Christians would sin more if they had this grace, they revert back to the law of sin and death in order to deny Paul’s message.
I may sound like a broken record, but so does Paul in this letter. This is because the point being made is so important and so missed and distorted in the religious system. The first part of Romans chapter 8 really sums it up. Before getting into those verses, I want to remind my reader of two very important concepts Paul is speaking on:
- Walking according to flesh = a person attempting to sin or ‘not sin’ in order to earn or maintain God’s favor.
- Walking according to spirit = a person perceiving that which is being graciously given to us by God, through Christ (1 Corinthians 2:12), regardless of sinning or ‘not sinning.’
Most churches teach that you are condemned if you commit certain sins. They say that you can lose your salvation or that these sins are proof that you were never saved. However, Paul says in Romans 8:1 that nothing is condemnation to those in Christ Jesus.
1 Nothing, consequently, is now condemnation to those in Christ Jesus. Not according to flesh are they walking, but according to spirit -Romans 8:1
This verse does not say that those in Christ Jesus will do nothing condemning, but says that nothing THEY DO is condemnation. So, how could committing a sinful act condemn the believer if Paul says NOTHING is condemnation? Many would say that belief means those in Christ will not commit sin or some sort of behavior will be evident distinguishing an unbeliever from a believer. However, Paul answers this in the next verses.
2 for the spirit’s law of life in Christ Jesus frees you from the law of sin and death.
3 For what was impossible to the law, in which it was infirm through the flesh, did God, sending His own Son in the likeness of sin’s flesh and concerning sin, He condemns sin in the flesh Romans 8: 2-3Paul explains that Jesus frees us from the law of sin and death. This means that Jesus frees us from earning or losing God’s rewards based on behavior. We are freed from the ‘do good’ and God rewards, ‘do bad’ and God punishes system. WE cannot gain or lose anything by our sinful acts or lack thereof. Why? Because we identify with Christ’s completed work and now have everything that He has. This is all based on Christ, not us.
Any attempt or teaching on not sinning in order to gain or maintain salvation is not trusting in Christ’s accomplishment and is an attempt to walk in flesh. The flesh desires to do something to earn salvation. Walking in spirit disregards what we do and don’t do completely, while trusting that Christ’s death and resurrection is our death and resurrection. Walking in spirit means a realization that Christ’s behavior is our behavior. Flesh separates our acts from Christ and says things like, “Christ died for us so that we can now act right and not commit certain sins.” This line of thinking teaches that we add our flesh to Christ’s work in order to make it complete. Walking in spirit understands that Christ’s work is ours, not adding to it at all.
Paul says that Christ did for us what was IMPOSSIBLE for us to do according to law. Therefore, it isn’t even possible for a human being to be saved by their acts, anything they do or don’t do. This also means that it is impossible for any human being NOT to be saved based on anything they do or do not do.
So many times I hear Christians argue between whether or not someone can lose their salvation. Once saved always saved, or not. This is such a silly argument and it proves by even asking this question that one does not believe Christ saved them. If salvation can be lost, then obviously it was up to ‘self’ in the first place. If it was based on Christ, then it couldn’t possibly be lost because nothing He did changed.
Paul says that God, through Christ, condemns sin in the flesh. This is done so that the just requirement of the law may be fulfilled in us. Christ fulfills it, therefore, it is not up to our acts to complete the process. Those that have given up on the flesh (self acts) and trust that Christ completed justification for them, are those that are deemed believers.
4 that the just requirement of the law may be fulfilled in us, who are not walking in accord with flesh, but in accord with spirit. -Romans 8:4
Did you catch that? Those that think they do something to be saved or need to stop sinning to maintain their salvation forfeit what Christ completed for them. They are trying to complete in the flesh what only Christ could accomplish. These people will eventually be saved as Christ is the Savior of all, but this will be realized later through judgement.
Before anyone says that one must choose to believe in order to saved, let me say this: Belief is given by God to those that have been chosen. So, God chooses those to be saved first and the rest, the unbelievers, are saved later through judgement. So, even belief is not an act of flesh and human attainment. We rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of believers (1 Timothy 4:10).
God is love and therefore, love is a fulfillment of law. Even though we do not love perfectly, the aim of the law is love. Christ is the One that fulfilled this perfectly. Because of this, Paul instructs us to love by showing us that love is the complement of law. Our apostle instructs to walk according to love because we have been justified by Christ, not in order to be justified by Christ.
8 To no one owe anything, except to be loving one another, for he who is loving another has fulfilled law. 9 For this: “You shall not commit adultery,” “you shall not murder,” “you shall not steal,” “you shall not testify falsely,” “you shall not covet,” and if there is any other precept, it is summed up in this saying, in this: “You shall love your associate as yourself.” 10 Love is not working evil to an associate. The complement, then, of law, is love. -Romans 13: 8-10
Another very important point to consider in the above verses is this: Paul is not bringing us back to the law of sin and death in Romans 13: 8-10 nor anytime he exhorts us to behave or walk worthily.
Paul just spent the entire letter to the Romans explaining that these believers have been freed from the law of sin and death. Paul did not do this to bring them right back to the law of sin and death by telling them ‘not to murder, not commit adultery, not steal, not testify falsely, not covet, and every other law.’ No, of course not.
Paul’s audience knows that we are not saved, justified, or made righteous in doing or not doing these things. We are saved, justified, and made righteous by Christ doing these things. We, being planted in Christ’s death and resurrection, is our salvation. Paul is saying that because we are saved, you shall walk in love, walk worthily of what has been done for you.
Religion and Christians will try to make these verses say that if you do not do these things, walk in love, walk worthily, then you will not be saved…or is evidence you are not saved. That would be reverting back to the law of sin and death and completely erases all of what Paul has explained in his letter to the Romans.
We walk worthily because of what Christ has done not in any way, to earn what He has done. This is the difference between being under the law of sin and death, and being freed from the law of sin and death. Oh…I pray my reader understands this.
If we do not understand that Christ has freed us from the law of sin and death, then we are in danger of being included in Romans 10: 1-4.
1 Indeed, brethren, the delight of my heart and my petition to God for their sake is for salvation. 2 For I am testifying to them that they have a zeal of God, but not in accord with recognition. 3 For they, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, were not subjected to the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the consummation of law for righteousness to everyone who is believing. -Romans 10: 1-4Any attempt to gain salvation, maintain salvation, or contribute by ‘not sinning’ or doing good deeds is SEEKING TO ESTABLISH YOUR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS. By doing so, you deny what has been completed and only could have been completed by Christ.
Going back to the law of sin and death means that you deny God’s righteousness by way of Christ’s faith, His death, His entombment, His resurrection, His fulfillment of the law. May we all understand that we are saved by Christ without any contribution from us.
Grace and peace.
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Parable of Rich Man and Lazarus does not teach Hell
What does it teach —
I was once sitting in the pastor’s office at a baptist church and one of the churchgoers told me that ‘the rich man and Lazarus’ proves eternal hell. I responded that this was a parable. He said, “So, that doesn’t mean its not literal and real.”
Really? “Can a dead man be walking and talking in another man’s bosom?”
I have heard people try to use this parable spoken by our Lord to prove eternal hell. This verse has nothing to do with one’s eternal destiny, especially a made up destiny such as ‘eternal conscious torment.’ This parable doesn’t even talk about heaven.
If this parable was talking about literal entrance into heaven and hell, then why would it not mention how to get there. Even worse, if taken to mean literal entrance into heaven or hell, this parable would contradict how Christ taught one would be saved.
According to eternal hell believers, the rich man is in hell only because ‘he was rich.’ Lazarus is in Abraham’s bosom which many say is heaven. I don’t know how someone would think that a man’s bosom is heaven, perhaps through the use of LSD. I don’t know. Nonetheless, Lazarus in there because he was poor.
So, if this parable is talking about heaven and hell, then are we to believe we get to heaven by being poor and go to hell if we are rich? Nonsense. If Jesus was talking about literal entrance to heaven, He would have described how ‘literally’ to be saved.
Okay, so what is the parable of the rich man and Lazarus?
First, this is a parable in a series of other parables that Jesus spoke. Jesus used parables as analogies to teach particular truths. They were not literal but did teach literal truths. So, let’s see who Christ was talking to:
In Luke 15: 1-2, Jesus was talking to tribute collectors, sinners, scribes, and Pharisees. In fact, both the Pharisees and the scribes grumbled, saying that “This man sinners is receiving, and is eating with them.”
Then, Jesus addresses the various groups mentioned above, using three parables.
- The parable of the lost sheep
- The parable of the lost coin
- The parable of the prodigal son
All of the lost in these parables were found by the higher power. The sheep and the coin did nothing to be found, yet, Jesus teaches that 100% will be saved in these two parables. The prodigal son did repent, however, it was the father that ran to him. God finds his lost by causing them to repent.
Then, Jesus goes into the parable of the unjust administrator. I just mention these to show that He is still speaking to the audience of tax collectors, scribes, and Pharisees.
Now, Jesus sets up the ‘rich man and Lazarus.’ He is clearly addressing the Pharisees that were inherently fond of money and justified themselves in the sight of men.
14 Now the Pharisees also, inherently fond of money, heard all these things, and they scouted Him.
15 And He said to them, “You are those who are justifying yourselves in the sight of men, yet God knows your hearts, for what is high among men is an abomination in the sight of God.
16 “The law and the prophets are unto John; thenceforth, the evangel of the kingdom of God is being brought, and everyone is violently forcing into it, and the violent are snatching it.
17 Yet it is easier for heaven and earth to pass by than for one serif of the law to fall.
18 “Everyone dismissing his wife and marrying another is committing adultery. And everyone marrying her who has been dismissed from a husband, is committing adultery. – Luke 16: 14-18So, Jesus is talking to many but is specifically addressing the Pharisees as He begins the parable.
The rich man represents the Pharisees, not all of humanity:
The rich man was dressed in purple and cambric. The color purple represented the ‘royal status’ of the priesthood. These were those that should have known John the baptist, Moses, and the prophets. Yet, they rejected the Messiah that these men pointed to.
Lazarus represents the filthy sinners the Pharisee’s look down upon according to Luke 15:2. Lazarus represents the faithful remnant that heeded the words of the prophets and accepted Jesus Christ as Messiah.
The rich man, like the Pharisee’s, represents the nation of Israel in apostasy:
Again, the scribes and the Pharisee’s of Israel rejected Jesus Christ. They led the charge of Israel to reject their Messiah. The Pharisee’s encouraged the people of Israel to crucify Jesus Christ.
Neither shall they be persuaded if someone should be rising from among the dead:
The rich man eventually asks Abraham if he would send Lazarus to warn his five brothers. However, Abraham says that those brothers have Moses and the prophets. The rich man responds as if this is not enough and states, “No, father Abraham, but if someone should be going to them from the dead, they will be repenting (Luke 16: 30-31).”
This is referring to Jesus Christ because Jesus Christ raised from the dead at his resurrection. Still, the nation of Israel remained in apostasy. The people ruled by these Pharisee’s and the Pharisee’s themselves, still rejected Christ as a nation after Christ’s resurrection when a man actually did come back from the dead. This is why Abraham says, “If Moses and the prophets they are not hearing, neither will they be persuaded if someone should be rising from among the dead (Luke 16: 31).”
This parable has to do with Israel’s 1000 year Millennial Reign only:
While on earth, Jesus refers to the future kingdom in which Israel will serve as priests for 1000 years. The parable of ‘the rich man and Lazarus’ relates to those sinners that have accepted Moses and the prophet’s teaching of the Messiah. Likewise, exposes those that rejected these teachings even while having the high position of a Pharisee that should have brought recognition of the Christ. Again, this parable has to do with Israel in the 1000 years and has nothing to do with ‘endless punishment.’
The Rich man, Lazarus, and Abraham are DEAD:
One way to know that this parable is not a literal story is that dead men are walking and talking. Scripture says that the dead ‘know nothing’ according to Ecclesiastes 9: 5. Death is equated to repose or sleep, not consciousness in scripture (1 Thessalonians 4: 13-14). The dead do not live during the 1000 years (Revelation 20:5).
Death is not life somewhere else. In fact, remember that this parable is discussing Israel’s 1000 year kingdom and scripture specifically states that the dead DO NOT live during this time.
5 (The rest of the dead do not live until the thousand years should be finished.) This is the former resurrection. -Revelation 20:5
The dead do not live during the 1000 years, especially in other men’s bosoms. So, this parable should not be taken literally because it personifies death to teach a point. It is not talking about literal death and therefore, Jesus is not speaking of literal heaven or hell.
Also, the rich man, Lazarus, and Abraham being dead could represent the fact that Israel is still in apostasy as Paul’s message from the glorified Christ is reaching the nations as discussed in Romans chapter 9 through 11. I’m not getting into that here, but Israel’s message can be considered ‘dead’ now until God picks up with them after the age of grace.
Lazarus is in Abraham’s bosom:
The baptist guy told me that the parable of the rich man and Lazarus could be a literal event. He wants it to be literal because he wants this passage to teach about hell, which it does not.
Could you imagine the rich man shouting to Abraham and seeing Lazarus in his chest, in his bosom? Not to mention that if this represents heaven, then thousands of believers would be in Abraham’s chest? How could a man being in another man’s chest be literally true. Ridiculous.
So, if Lazarus being in Abraham’s chest is not literally true, then Jesus is not speaking of literal heaven and hell in this passage. How can my baptist friend believe that an obvious non-literal representation can then be turned to teach a literal heaven and hell? That’s not how parables work and this is only done by those in a futile attempt to prove the lie of eternal conscious torment.
The torment of ‘the rich man:’
Is the torment of the ‘rich man’ eternal hell?
24 And he shouting, said, ‘Father Abraham, be merciful to me, and send Lazarus that he should be dipping the tip of his finger in water and cooling my tongue, for I am pained in this flame.’ – Luke 16:24
Many Christians are so inconsistent and will do anything to prove eternal hell true. However, the popular Christian conception of hell is that people are being tortured by excruciating pain covered in flames.
However, the rich man asks that Lazarus dip the tip of his finger in water to cool his tongue. This is hardly a literal description of the traditional hell. I don’t think a painful tongue that can be cooled by a drop of water describes the hell that Christians want you to believe is real.
Well, eternal hell is a doctrine of demons and found nowhere in all of properly translated scripture. However, this parable does not have eternity in view at all. As mentioned before, Jesus’s words here have to do with Israel and acceptance of the prophets and of Christ Himself as the Messiah.
So, either way, the rich man and Lazarus will not be in the state they are forever. It will last for a period of time. The apostle Paul received revelation from the glorified Christ that eventually all that die in Adam will be ‘made alive’ by Christ (1 Corinthians 15: 21-22) and that God will be All in all (1 Corinthians 15:28). The entire creation will be reconciled to God through the blood of the cross (Colossians 1: 15-20).
You can bet that this includes the rich man, if he were real.
So, what is the torment?
It is the same torment described when the five virgins were locked out of the wedding feast, the same torment of those described as ‘weeping and gnashing of teeth,’ the same torment of age-long banishment from the kingdom. The rich man is feeling the pain of regret and agony for missing the warning of Moses and the prophets and ultimately rejecting Israel’s messiah.
This is a horrible thing for an Israelite to miss out on the Millennial rule with their Messiah. Its especially painful for those of the pharisees given special privilege in Israel. However, they are not tortured in hell and certainly are not separate from God forever.
Yes, the cross of Christ will eventually erase any chasm between God and his creatures, including death.
Abraham does not hold the keys to Hades:
Father Abraham is representative of the children of Israel in this passage. This shows that the parable speaks of the 1000 year kingdom and Israel’s acceptance or rejection of Christ. If this is a literal teaching on heaven and hell, then why is Abraham making decisions on who can get out of death?
The ‘rich man’ acknowledges Abraham’s apparent control of death by asking him to send Lazarus to his five brothers that are still alive. Abraham does not say, “I do not have power over death.” No, he explains that not even one coming back from the dead would convince your brothers, referring to Christ.
How can this parable speak of literal death when its Christ that holds the keys to death and the unseen (revelation 1: 18)?
Where is faith in Christ? Paul’s message?
Jesus tells the rich man that his brothers have Moses and the prophets. Well, what about Paul? Where is Paul’s message of the faith of Christ, His death for sin, His entombment and His resurrection? Belief in this gives us God’s righteousness now and is for everyone eventually (Romans 3:21-23).
If the parable of the rich man and Lazarus is about entrance into heaven or being ‘saved,’ then why would Jesus just elude to being the Messiah of Israel and not what the cross has accomplished?
The answer is because this parable has nothing to do with hell or being saved for eternity, it has to do with the 1000 year kingdom in which Israel will rule with Christ. In the fullness of time, the figurative ‘rich man’ and every man will be with God because of Christ’s faith, His death for sin, His entombment, and His resurrection (Romans 5: 18-19, 1 Corinthians 15: 21-28, Colossians 1: 15-20, 1 Timothy 4:10).
Paul explains all of this in his letters after Jesus spoke this parable. It appears that Christians ignore the revelation of the full accomplishment of the cross spoken by Paul. They do this in order to jam themselves into Israel’s message and disgrace God by jamming eternal hell into this parable. Paul, remember, received his revelation from the glorified Jesus Christ. So, this parable and Paul’s words are not at odds with each other, but we must put them in their proper place.
Grace and peace to you all.
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We must know WHERE our decisions come from in order to know God
The absolute vs. the relative viewpoint
If I bowled a strike, did I knock the pins down or did the bowling ball knock the pins down? Well, both are correct one would say. In a relative sense, the bowling ball did. However, in the absolute sense, I did because of my control of the ball.
Knowing the absolute and the relative viewpoint in scripture is essential to understanding God. Otherwise, one might get a false idea that God is weak or makes mistakes or worse, that man makes absolute decisions that escape God’s influence.
I am tempted to explain the absolute vs. the relative viewpoint, but I’m just going to scripture. After all, scripture does the best job in this explanation.
And Yahweh said to Moses: When you go to return to Egypt, see to all the miracles which I place in your hand, that you do them before Pharaoh. Yet I shall make his heart steadfast, and he shall not dismiss the people. – Exodus 4:21
So in the above verse, God clearly makes Pharaoh’s heart steadfast. Okay, now lets look at Exodus 8:32.
Yet Pharaoh hardened his heart, even at this time, and he did not dismiss the people. – Exodus 8:32
There are multiple verses that explain that both God hardened Pharaoh’s heart and that Pharaoh hardened his own heart. I just include two of them for time sake. However, these verses are talking about the same event.
So, which is it? Did God harden Pharaoh’s heart or did Pharaoh harden his own heart? Well, both are true!
In the absolute sense, God does everything. God determined that Pharaoh would not let the Israelite’s go in order to show His power and miracles to all the world. If God didn’t make Pharaoh’s heart steadfast then no plagues and no parting of the sea. Yet, God wanted these things to happen so He, in the absolute sense, determined from the beginning that Pharaoh’s heart would be hard. God said, “I shall MAKE his heart steadfast.” God did it. Period.
Okay, then why does Exodus 8:32 say that Pharaoh hardened his own heart? This is because Pharaoh was just playing out in the relative sense what God had already determined in the absolute sense. You see, God determines everything as He tells the end from the beginning and works all according to His will (Isaiah 46:10, Ephesians 1:11). This is the absolute viewpoint.
Pharaoh hardened his heart based on the circumstances, emotions, disposition, and everything else put in motion by God. Pharaoh made this decision in real time as a result of everything God put in place. So, he did decide based on his relative experiences. This is the relative viewpoint.
So to summarize, God determined what Pharaoh would do in order to fulfill His intention, then put Pharaoh in the relative circumstances that would cause Pharaoh to make the decision that God planned for him to make.
How else could both verses be true? These examples are all over scripture. The problem with many bible students is that they ignore the absolute viewpoint in favor of the relative one. In error, people would accept Exodus 8:32 that says Pharaoh hardened his heart and ignore Exodus 4:21. The ignorance of not knowing the absolute and relative viewpoints leads to arguments like, “see, we have free will because I make choices all the time. Adam chose to sin, one thief accepted Jesus, my aunt Sally chose to reject Christ.”
Every decision we make is relative to our experiences and circumstances that God uses to fulfill His intention in the absolute sense. God determines what we do and the choices we make (absolute) and we make those decisions in real time, for us, relative to the motivating factors God chose to use.
Need more scriptural examples? Here are just a few:
12 So that, my beloved, according as you always obey, not as in my presence only, but now much rather in my absence, with fear and trembling, be carrying your own salvation into effect,13 for it is God Who is operating in you to will as well as to work for the sake of His delight. -Philippians 2: 12-13
Here in verse 12 Paul tells us to carry your own salvation into effect. So many people stop here at the relative, human viewpoint and say that its our decisions and actions that save us. Those decisions and actions are definitely a part of carrying our own salvation. However, if we keep reading verse 13 Paul tells where these decisions and actions come from. It is God Who is operating in you to will as well as to work for the sake of His delight.
You see, in the absolute sense, it is God that works in you causing the decisions that you make in the relative. God determines your decisions and works in you in order to carry out those decisions in real time. You still made those decisions, but as a result of God’s decree.
Now on hearing this, the nations rejoiced and glorified the word of the Lord, and they believe, whoever were set for life eonian. -Acts 13:48
You see, God determines and sets whoever will have life eonian, then those people chosen by God will come to belief. God does not wait to see who would believe and then react to their choice by giving them life. No, God determines who will have life and gives them the faith at some point in life. Yes, those people make a choice. However, this choice was determined by God in the absolute.
11 For, not as yet being born, nor putting into practice anything good or bad, that the purpose of God may be remaining as a choice, not out of acts, but of Him Who is calling, 12 it was declared to her that “The greater shall be slaving for the inferior,”
13 According as it is written, “Jacob I love, yet Esau I hate.” -Romans 9: 11-13In the above verses, Paul explains that God determined every decision, good or bad, that Jacob and Esau would make before they were even born. Now, these two men made all kinds of decisions that effected their destiny throughout life. The brothers did not feel constrained or influenced by God in these decisions. However, scripture says that God determined every single decision they would make. As a result, the inmost being and circumstances of life molded Jacob and Esau into making the choices that God planned for them to make.
God had chosen Jacob to become Israel from the very beginning. The drama that played out with Jacob and his mother deceiving Esau was all determined by God beforehand. God would not leave Israel, His chosen people, to chance. God chose Jacob and the brothers lived out every detail by making their own choices. All part of the intricate details that God had planned. That is why He is the Potter and we are the clay.
By the way, God does not hate Esau. Esau was actually blessed richly. However, God hated Esau relative to Jacob. This simply means that God chose Jacob instead of Esau. God is love and incapable of hate.
The only way these verses hold true is if we understand that God determines everything in the absolute sense and human beings make choices in the relative sense that carry out what God has already determined. For it is God that has planned the end from the beginning and its God that wrote each one of our days on His scroll BEFORE ONE OF THEM CAME TO BE (Isaiah 46:10, Psalm 139:16).
In the account of Job, the Adversary needed to approach the throne room of God in order to gain permission. What was Job’s response to the evil that Satan did to him?
Yahweh, He gives, and Yahweh, He takes away (Job 1:21).
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Indeed should we receive good from the One, Elohim, and should not receive evil (Job 2:10)?
Why does Job never address Satan? Its because Job knew that God determines everything and Satan is only acting out in real time what God has planned. Satan is a relative creature in God’s hands.
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Who blesses us with every spiritual blessing among the celestials, in Christ, 4 according as He chooses us in Him before the disruption of the world, we to be holy and flawless in His sight, 5 in love designating us beforehand for the place of a son for Him through Christ Jesus; in accord with the delight of His will… -Ephesians 1: 3-5
In the above verses, Paul says that believers are chosen before the disruption of the world, designated beforehand. This was obviously determined by God before each believer was born because God made this decision before the world, as we know it, was created. So, if God already determined who would believe then how is a believer making an absolute choice, independent of God, if God has already chosen that person? Same if God did not choose that person to believe. How can a person believe if God determined for them not to believe? They cannot.
God determines everything and if He has chosen for someone to believe then He will work out their life in a way so that they will believe. If God chose them not to believe then God will work out their life in a way so that they will not believe.
How can God still be blaming us then? Read Romans chapter 9! We can still be entreated to make the right decision and the ultimate source of that decision still be God. He’s God.
God chooses to save some now through faith and will save the rest through judgement later. All will taste salvation through Christ’s death for sin, His entombment, and His resurrection.
10 (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of believers. – 1 Timothy 4:10
All is of God (2 Corinthians 5:18), says the apostle Paul, including salvation. This is the absolute viewpoint in which God does everything. The decisions that people make and the experiences that people have are a result of God and are in the relative viewpoint. God tells the end from the beginning, before any one of us were born or able to contribute anything. In real time during our lives, we make decisions and live out what God has determined. So, we do make decisions. But, they are dependent on God not independent of Him.
We can say the bowling ball knocked down the pins, we can say the baseball bat hit the home-run, and we can say the ax chopped the wood. But, let’s not ignore the force behind those actions. Can the bowling ball roll the human? Can the baseball bat swing the man? Can the ax hurl the person swinging it? No…and niether can we make decisions separate from our Creator.
The force behind every action and decision is God.
Shall the ax vaunt itself over the one hewing with it? Should the mace magnify itself over the one swinging it? As if a club should swing the one raising it up! As if a rod should raise him up who is not wood! -Isaiah 10:15
Grace and peace to you all.
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The Calvinist Straw man and the robot argument
John Calvin did not invent God’s sovereignty. So why do many Christians use ‘Calvinism’ to attempt to prove human free-will and diminish God’s authority? My belief is that religious people use ‘Calvinism’ to categorize scriptures that they cannot explain. Scriptures that prove God’s sovereignty and completely disprove human free will are not Calvinism, but scripture.
For instance, God says He determined who would be in Christ before time began and this is not based on the person’s decision or any act on their part (2 Timothy 1:9). God also says that HE determines everything a person does whether it be good or bad…and He determines this before they are born (Romans 9: 11-12).
Do Christians take the time to present the case as to how a person can be free to make any choice they want when God already determined what they would do before they were born, before time even began? NO! They just say, “You are a Calvinist!” As a result, they can just ignore plain statements of scripture and put it into the ‘Calvinist argument box’ to avoid truth.
First, I want to say that not all Christians use this argument. However, those that do are completely in error. ‘Calvinism’ is simply not taught, nor used as a basis for anything on this substack. Let me prove it:
On this substack, God’s sovereignty is taught based on scripture that shows God as the Potter and human beings as clay (Romans 9:21). God plans the end from the beginning (Isaiah 46:10) and determines belief and forms every decision of a man’s life before birth (Psalm 139:16, 2 Timothy 1:9, Romans 9:11). God gives humans this experience of evil (Ecclesiastes 1:13) and every experience to individually work out the order of every creature’s salvation based on Christ’s faith, His death for sin, His entombment, and His resurrection alone. God works all according to His will (Ephesians 1:11) for the end game accomplishment of all creation being reconciled through the blood of the cross (Colossians 1:20) so that God will be All in all (1 Corinthians 15:28).
Calvinism teaches that God has determined people to be eternally separated from Him. Specifically, God created human beings and other creatures for the sole purpose of torturing them in fire forever. It is impossible for these beings to be saved no matter what they do. Even Christ’s death for sin can do nothing for the sin that God has guaranteed for them. John Calvin and his followers deny the numerous scriptures that speak of God, through Christ cross, saving all of His creation.
So, Calvinism is a sick perversion of predestination. However, many Christians that use this argument hate God’s sovereignty so much that anything God plans from the beginning must be Calvinism, therefore they can create the straw man that satisfies their belief in human free-will.
Sorry, claiming ‘Calvinism’ does not get anyone off the hook for believing in human free will or as I like to call it, self salvation. The reason people need to relate God’s sovereignty to Calvinism is because Calvinism is obviously false, but still this argument addresses none of the verses that clearly teach God’s sovereignty.
One of the reason religious people hide behind this fake argument is with the nonsensical argument that ‘we are not robots.’ I have heard this so many times in the past few years that I will touch on it now.
Ya know, most people are apprehensive about calling AI (artificial intelligence) humans. This is because AI and robots are man’s creation and do not possess God’s spirit, as humans do. Robots buzz and blink while having no ability to let emotions effect their decision making. However, when defending ‘free will,’ Christians often say, “God did not create robots.”
This thought process operates under the assumption that if God created the inmost being and circumstances of a person’s life in order for them to make predetermined decisions, then these people would somehow be robots. As I said before, Robots buzz and blink without emotions. So, how is this the same thing as God creating all the circumstances of life and putting a unique individual in these circumstances while using the complex intricacies of their heart and mind to cause them to learn, feel emotions, grow and make decisions according to God’s own plan?
Its more like God is the Potter and we are the clay. He molds us using our inmost being (that He created) and weaves it into unique individualized circumstances to produce the experiences of our lives and the decisions that come as a result. Scripture in fact says “Has not the potter the right over the clay (Romans 9:21)?” So God is the Potter and we are the clay, according to scripture. So, why don’t those that believe in ‘free will’ use this analogy as opposed to the ‘robot’ analogy?
Because the ‘robot’ is a straw man argument they can win while denying the true scriptural analogy that proves ‘human free will’ false. We are obviously not robots, so obviously we have a ‘free will’ the argument goes. However, God uses far more ‘molding’ of inmost beings and circumstances that make up the human being in order fulfill His intention. As if God wasn’t powerful enough to cause His creation to do His intention with all the tools at His disposal that the only way He could make them do His will is by making them robots. Nonsense!
As a high school basketball coach and teacher, I could manipulate situations based on my knowledge of a student to get the desired response. I don’t need to make them robots! I know them and understand the individual circumstances they need to learn, grow, and make the right decisions. We don’t even give God this credit? He has to make robots? God created us and has intimate knowledge of each individual and complete control of circumstances. Can you see how ridiculous and blasphemous this robot argument is?
So, we are not robots as humans are far more complex than that. However, God still retains His sovereignty as the potter does with his clay. Again, I ask any Christian, give me an example that is allowed in the Potter and clay analogy in Romans chapter 9 that proves clay can mold itself causing the Potter to react. All of Romans chapter 9 proves God’s sovereignty and disproves human free will. The only way around this is to ignore it along with many other scriptures. Free-will believers have no problem doing this.
You see, the underlying problem with this ‘robot’ argument is that those that use it treat God as if He were a human being. If a human being did this, the thought goes, then he or she would be unloving and controlling. However, as I mentioned in previous articles, God is in a unique position in that HE is God and the Placer/Subjector of all things. Acts chapter 17 says that it is in God that humans live, move, and exist (Acts 17:28). God’s spirit animates our every thought, movement, and decision. So, How can we be free from God when our existence requires Him?
Keep in mind that God is creating us in Christ Jesus. It is God’s work and it is God that is working in us to will and to do of His good pleasure (Philippians 2:13), not our free-will. After all, how could we be free of death that is operating in us? We are dying creatures and this in and of itself makes free-will impossible because, of course, death operating in us is an influence on us.
Once God constitutes us with the immortality of Christ, then death is no longer an influence and we can truly be free. At this point, God becomes our All forever. Do we have a free-will when God is our All? This is the endgame that every experience of every creature is leading toward…all orchestrated by the Almighty God.
Grace and peace.
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God giving us a free-will is not love, but saving us is…
an earful on God’s justice –
We have all heard this before: “God would not force His love on anyone. He wants us to choose Him and if we do not, His love allows us to make that choice.” Therefore, the thought is that God loves us and wants us to choose Him, but gave us a free-will to reject His love.
I recently received comments explaining to me that God expresses His love by giving the human being a free will choice. In fact, Christians use analogies like “if you liked a girl would you give her a potion to force her to marry you or would you love her enough to allow her the freedom to choose?”
Another analogy talked about kidnapping someone and forcing them to do something against their will. These comments play into the ‘we are not puppets and we are not robots’ arguments. As if God cannot be the Potter and we the clay. As if God cannot work His will in our lives without making us puppets or robots, or without giving us a potion or kidnapping us.
Would you give relationship advice to a man based on how lions act? Lions kill other males and force themselves on the females. Would you give a woman relationship advice based on how a praying mantis acts? Praying Mantis sometimes eat their mate.
Of course not! Why? Because lions and Praying Mantis have nothing to do with humans in regard to courtship relationships. So infinitely more than this, human to human relationships have nothing to do with God to human relationships. Why then, do we continue to humanize God in these analogies? If a human did not give another human a free will choice, then that human would be controlling and not loving. Therefore, if God didn’t give the human a free-will choice, then God would be controlling and not loving. Here is the fatal flaw in this reasoning:
GOD IS NOT A HUMAN BEING AND HIS RELATIONSHIP TO HIS CREATURES IS DIFFERENT THAN THE CREATURE TO CREATURE RELATIONSHIP. God is in the unique position of being God. For instance, scripture says that we live, move, and are (exist) in God (Acts 17:28). Also, God gives to all life, breath, and all (Acts 17:25). No person has this relationship with another person. No one, whether it be our children, spouse, parents, friends, or anyone else lives, moves, and exists in us or another person.
The point I am trying to make is that God giving us a free-will is not the same thing as a human being giving another human being the freedom to choose. Why? Because God formed the inmost being of every human and created the circumstances of each individual life. This inmost being and all circumstances created and molded by God cause the human to make choices that God has planned from the beginning. So, God cannot give humans a free-will and if we say He did, then we are saying this free-will is given to make choices that God has already determined.
Here is some scripture that proves this:
11 For, not as yet being born, nor putting into practice anything good or bad, that the purpose of God may be remaining as a choice, not out of acts, but of Him Who is calling… -Romans 9:11
The above verse references Jacob and Esau but is a template in how God operates with all humanity as He is not a respecter of persons. In Romans 9:11, Paul says that before we are born (not as yet being born) and BEFORE we did anything good or bad (nor putting into practice anything good or bad), God determined what we would do (the purpose of God may be remaining as a choice, not out of acts, but of Him Who is calling).
So, this verse says that God determined the choices that Jacob and Esau would make before they were born and before they did anything good or bad. God did not go into the future to see what Jacob and Esau would do because that would still depend on Jacob and Esau putting into practice anything good or bad. God clearly says that its not based on the siblings actions or choices but completely determined by God.
As a result, those that believe in human free-will would have to conclude that God gives a human the free will to make a choice that God already determined he would or wouldn’t make. That is why the gift of free-will, if it were real, is not love. In fact, this proves that human free-will does not exist. It may be loving for me to allow my girlfriend to choose me or not, however, God determines our choices beforehand so every decision we make is a result of Him. So, free-will is not love when the choices are already determined.
Still not convinced? How about 2 Timothy 1:9…
9 Who saves us and calls us with a holy calling, not in accord with our acts, but in accord with His own purpose and the grace which is given to us in Christ Jesus before times eonian… -2 Timothy 1:9
God would not force us to love Him says the Christian. God loves us so much that He allows us to choose or reject Him? Really?
Now, there is no doubt that scripture implores us to choose Christ and to choose God. However, let’s not mistake the relative call to action with the fact that these choices are determined by God.
2 Timothy 1:9 says the believers have this grace in Christ before time began. This is in accord with God’s purpose and grace He has given, not in accord with our acts. We know that grace is received through faith and therefore, faith was given before we were born. So, how could one make a free-will choice when it was determined by God that they would believe before they were even born?
3 For I am saying, through the grace which is given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to be overweening, beyond what your disposition must be, but to be of a sane disposition, as God parts to each the measure of faith. –Romans 12:3
It’s not that people don’t make a choice for God. It’s that God determined that choice before they were born. God determines our inmost being, our circumstances, and molds us into making decisions that He has planned from the very beginning.
Once again, free-will is not a thing nor would it be love if God has already determined our choices. Love is actually God sending His Son to save and justify all creation. This notion that God giving us a free-will is love is nonsense once we understand that God is God and everything He plans for us will end in the greatest possible good for us and His glory.
If God has chosen you to be a believer then in your life, He will work everything out so that you come to belief. If God has not chosen you to believe, then He will work things out so that you don’t believe. Then, the unbeliever will face God’s judgement or correction to learn about themselves and eventually come to the cross and know God and Christ in a greater way than they ever could have if they believed. All is of God and all are saved, eventually, by Christ.
Grace and peace.
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Justification is the Gift from God, not Free-Will
Romans 3:10-11 says that “Not one is just” — not even one.
Romans 3:23 says that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Paul says these things to get people to understand that no human can be just without God. So, why do religious people always claim to have done something to make themselves earn this justification that no human can do anything to attain?
Many people say that although God loves us, He is just and holy. Therefore, no unjust person can be in His presence. Exactly! But, Paul explains that it is God that provides the justification through Christ’s faith, death for sin, entombment, and resurrection. The ‘human free-will’ argument just moves the goal post so that justification is earned through ‘human choice.’
God justifies the sinner and the irreverent because the justification is Christ’s work. Christians claim to make a reverent choice because they believe justification is based on this and not on Christ. So in truth, the issue is not whether a person is just or not. But instead, the issue is how a person is justified. Christians believe that justification comes through human free will, where scripture says it comes through Christ.
The truth is that every judgement of God on a creature leads to the creature’s ultimate justification. Why? Because all justification is Christ’s work. God’s justice is not separate from His love as if humans need to choose one or the other. God’s judgement and justice run through His love ending in justification for all.
Grace and peace.
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3 Questions that prove Christian Contradiction
Question 1: Is God love?
Question 2: Is God sovereign?
Question 3: If the answer to question 1 and 2 is yes, then why are all men not saved?
The answer to question 3 directly contradicts either question 1 or question 2, or both. The fact of scripture says the answer to question 3 is that God will save all men through Christ’s death for sin, His entombment, and His resurrection.
If God is all powerful and sovereign, therefore able to save all but doesn’t…He is not love.
If God is all loving and wants to save all men but cannot, then He is not sovereign.
The true God loves His creation so much that He wants all to be saved and is powerful enough to do exactly that. How could any Christian possibly think that Christ’s cross does not accomplish this salvation? Simple, they reject God’s love or sovereignty or both by replacing it with a hateful god that bows to man’s sovereign free will. This is a false god.