Comment sent to me: Scott Hicko No, it is quite clear in many verses that the destruction is permanent. What you are referring to is ademic death, the first death inherited from Adam. From this death Jesus shed blood redeems us. The second death is the opposite, that’s why Jesus warns of it so sincerely, there is no resurrection from the second death. The second death is judgment from God not death we were born into because Adam sinned. What is the purpose or nature of a judgment that all are saved from anyway? If all are saved then no judging is needed, there would be no other outcome no decision to make. 2 Thessalonians 1:9 says eternal eternal αἰώνιον (aiōnion) Adjective – Accusative Masculine Singular Strong’s 166: From aion; perpetual. Psalms 37:38, Psalms 52:5 So you think God says repeatedly that the wicked are done away with but the truth is exactly opposite of that? Is that a logical position to take?
My response: You confuse the means with the end, my friend. Death is ‘permanent’ for all without the resurrection of Christ Jesus. Psalm 68:16 and Job 36:7 use the same Hebrew word for ‘permanent’ to describe the rule of kings and God dwelling on a mountain. Does God dwell on the mountain forever and do kings rule forever? Nope, all authority and power is nullified by Christ (1Cor15:25) when all is subjected to God. Either way, the psalmist did not have access to the full scope and accomplishment of the cross as revealed to the apostle Paul. Job 14:14 asks if a man dies, will he live again? They were sealed up in the permanence of death and nobody, even good people, had a hope of getting out of this state. Eventually, Christ Jesus justifies, gives His righteousness to humanity…in order for all humanity to be vivified, each in their own order of course. In the end, salvation does not rely on your righteousness, but only on Christ’s.
As far as 2 Thessalonians 1:9, αἰώνιον (aiōnion) is used in Titus 1:2 to describe God’s promises before eternity αἰώνιον (aiōnion) began. How can something happen before eternity αἰώνιον (aiōnion) began? Not possible, but it can happen before the ages began. You must translate these words consistently, not just mix and match them to fit your interpretation. ‘Aion’ means age… αἰώνιον (aiōnion) is the adjective, as you stated, of ‘aion.’ The adjective form of the noun cannot have an opposite meaning of that noun…like hour, hourly, day, daily.
God will be all in all as 1 Corinthians 15:28 says. The context of the all in all is ALL that die in Adam. So, scripture is saying that God will be all in all that die in Adam and yet, you say many will be lost forever? Scripture says that death is abolished by putting on immortality, yet you say Christ made no provision for the second death? Romans 5:18:19 says that those that die in Adam are justified by Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:22 says that all that die in Adam will be vivified in Christ. Vivified means being made alive beyond the possibility of ever dying again…the process is described in verses 54 and 55.
Jesus never spoke about the second death, ever. His earthly ministry spoke of the patriarchal promises of Israel ruling the earth. Those out of that Kingdom would miss out on that kingdom, not eternity in the second death. You ask ‘What is the purpose or nature of a judgment that all are saved from anyway?’ The result of judgement is described in Isaiah 26:9 when those that are judged LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS. See, God is the Savior of all mankind, especially of believers (1 Timothy 4:10). Believers have a special salvation in that they are vivified first, unbelievers will come to a realization of God and Christ’s cross through judgement. You fail to see that Paul’s revelation is ‘to whom the consummations of the eons have attained (1Cor10:11-12).’ Paul describes the completion of Christ’s work at the end of the ages…which is…God being all in all…the same ‘all’ that die in Adam are the same ‘all’ justified by Christ (Rom5:18-19)…the same ‘all’ created by God through Christ (all creation), will be reconciled to God through the blood of the cross (Colossians 1: 15-20). Any mention of destruction, death, casting out, weeping and gnashing of teeth, having a part in the lake of fire…etc….occurs before God saves everyone through Christ, each in there own order as many will have to go through judgement.
PJ, God wills all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth and He works all according to the counsel of His will (eph 1:11). You end the game at halftime and deny that God will complete the four quarters. In the end, you will see that God’s judgement is part of His love and that we are saved by God, through Christ…and not by human achievement. You see, death is our curse and Christ Jesus entered it and gives us His immortality to save us from it. Your belief that Christ does not actually save us from death because the second death is too powerful for the cross, makes no scriptural sense. You cannot see the forest through the trees as you cannot see God’s complete plan, His complete love, nor His complete sovereignty through your own self-will. Good luck to you.
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